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Friday, July 20, 2007

Something Is Not Right

In fact, in the immortal words of a French nun, “Something is quite wrong.” I was reading this week’s Brave and the Bold #5 and something is definitely amiss in the DCU. This is the second time in a few months that Batman has fought Karate Kid.

The screwy part is Batman’s reaction, he gives no indication that he has ever done this before. Yes, I know that it is not the Karate Kid he took on in the pages of Justice League of America but wouldn’t Batman then say, “You’re not Karate Kid. I’ve fought Val Armor. His collar is bigger.” Of course, it is a comic so maybe by the end of this arc everyone goes back to their respective timelines with memories erased. It happens all the time. But something still wasn’t sitting right with me. Look at this excerpt from the “Lighting Saga.”

Batman is finding out about the Legion of Superheroes from the Fortress of Solitude’s computer. Given his nightly activities and study habits, my guess is that this isn’t the first time he has looked at those files. That should mean when he goes toe-to-toe with Val Armor in Brave and The Bold, even if it happened before Justice League or there was a memory wipe, he should say, “I have read about you. You aren’t the Karate Kid I know. His collar was bigger.” But he does not say this. Instead it is Tharok that fills him in on the Legion. This suggests that Superman never went into the future, that the characters in the “present” don’t know about them.

Also to further screw things up, in Action Comics #850 Supergirl is in the future with a different Legion, with a different Karate Kid who has not fought Batman…yet. So what does this mean?

I’ve got two theories. The first one is that the Earth of Brave and The Bold is not New Earth. It might be an Earth that closely resembles New Earth but with slight differences, a sort of Pre-Infinite Crisis Earth (Earth-1 maybe?) with New Earth characters like Blue Beetle. It isn’t too far fetched, look how together Supergirl is in the comic. That could just be equated to inconsistent character writing but it could suggest that this world is not the main one. Hey, maybe the heroes find out in the Book of Destiny that their world is not New Earth. That would be cool. This, of course, raises the question as to which title is on which Earth.

The second theory is that New Earth is in constant flux, that elements from different planets are seeping in and out all the time. The histories and futures of each character change constantly without anyone noticing. Maybe one month it’s Golden Age history and future, the next Zero Hour time. The chances of this are less likely as writing something like that would be terrible and hard to coordinate. However, it could be a way to show that Earth are bleeding into each other, that the walls between the realities are weakening so much that different futures are occurring at all times.

What was your take?


Blogger Walking through Destinys Garden said...

Well...on the first page of the issue it says that the story happens before Lightning Saga.

But as to why Batman doesn't remember running into the threeboot legion in lightning saga..never mind why he doesn't remember meeting the reboot legion either...well thats beyond me.

8:30 AM

Blogger Siskoid said...

My take is that Brave & the Bold has ALWAYS been in the Haneyverse (AKA Earth-B), whether Haney is writing it or not.

After all, didn't the mini-series co-star the Butcher? And it's notoriously difficult to reconcile creator-owned characters with the rest of the DCU (like, where are they now? Not that I ever want to see the Sovereign 7 ever again).

8:30 AM

Blogger Gyuss Baaltar said...

I'm guessing that after One-Year later, we're all being misled on continuity. The universe isn't just 52 multiverses, it's broken and everything is bleeding together.

11:03 AM

Blogger Christopher said...

I think perhaps you have overanalyzed this a bit..Two parsimonious ideas may be used to explain:

1. In Batman's DCU era there are two Flashes, multiple Green Lanterns,and two Wildcats...If I were Batman meeting someone else named Karate Kid-I would simply accept that more than one person has the name and move on...

2. Maybe he did notice it but its not shown "on camera" for the sake of moving the story along...I mean that comes down to something like this:
Batman: "huh..interesting another Asian Karate Kid who is different from the one I met!...curious."

3:43 PM

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brave and the Bold happens first. Plus, it's a time travel story, so he probably ends up forgetting everything by the end.

5:37 PM

Blogger Jon Hex said...

You can't expect Batman to remember every ass he's kicked.

7:45 PM

Blogger Michael said...

I call it "multiversal retconitis". Batman has met four different versions of the Legion and apparently doesn't remember any of them.

This will probably all be worked out in "The Legion of Three Worlds" that was mentioned in the "Lightning Saga" story. You'll have the current version, the post-Zero Hour reboot version, and the Lightning Saga version (which resembles, but is not exactly, the pre-Crisis Legion), all on different Earths in the new multiverse.

12:41 PM

Blogger Scipio said...

Yeah, I'm with Yonaton on this one: the editor's box that specifically said "This story takes places before the events of the Lightning Saga" pretty much cleared that up for me.

You kids today! Never learned to read the Editor's Notes! That's just the kind of thing Brave and the Bold is here to fix...

9:34 PM

Anonymous Jake said...

Well, I'd think Batman would at least reference fighting someone named Karate Kid later, but for all we know he might end up getting his mind wiped when he returns to his own time. I miss the days when Saturn Girl seemed to plant Post-Hypnotic Suggestions in everyone she met.

Anyway, I think Brainiac 5 is going to mindwipe EVERYONE so that no one teases him for getting tricked by Batman. Twice.

2:25 PM

Anonymous The Mutt said...

The Haneyverse explains anything.

8:17 PM


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